Monday, March 12, 2012

All the political smear aside,am I right in assuming that all Americans would agree with that statement?|||Absolutely. As a gun owner myself, I would fully support psychiatric testing required for the purchase of any firearm. It's not going to prevent myself or any other sane person from owning a weapon... but it will indeed *help* to weed out the crazies like this kid, who legally owned the weapon he used.|||Nobody that has been adjudicated to by mentally ill or "defective" can buy a gun. That has been a federal law for a long time. However even the mentally ill have civil rights and are guaranteed due process.
You can't deny anyone their civil rights just because you don't like how they live, or how they look or how they talk.|||Yes we would all agree to that.The problem here is that his mental problems went undiagnosed(i am assuming)so he would have nothing to stop him from buying a gun.If he had been diagnosed would be filed and he would not have been able to buy a gun.So what we should be talking about is the many decades of failure of the mental health care system,not addressed in the health care bill by the way.|||Do I agree that mentally unstable people should not be permitted to buy guns? Absolutely!

Where we will probably differ is the definition and diagnosis of "mentally unstable".

Quite frankly if more people had been armed at that rally that nutjob would have been lucky to get one shot off.|||Anybody in this country can get a gun, you don't need to attain one legally. It is much less likely someone would murder someone with a registered gun that can be traced back to them rather than an unregistered one. So I really don't see how that would help anything, but if it makes you feel safer sure. If someone really wants to go out and open fire on a group of people, I don't think any government regulations are going to stop them.|||He apparently passed an FBI background check.

Don't confuse legal gun ownership with gun violence. The two have little correlation. It is widely documented that guns used in most gun violence are obtained illegally. FBI crime stats show crackdowns on illegal guns reduce crime. Note illegal guns, not legally bought and permitted guns.

Reminder, Drunk drivers kill more people than guns...so shouldnt we all be screaming for more DUI checkpoints instead of worrying about Mrs. Jane Q. Public buying and permitting a carry gun for her purse?|||Who gets to judge who is crazy.
I think most liberal democrats are totally loony tunes and they probably think I am.
Unfortunately you can't pick out the crazies until they end up in front of a judge and some head shrinkers.|||The trick is, how does a gun store clerk determine if a person is mentally ill? They're not qualified to make that diagnosis, and if they weren't previously diagnosed as being mentally ill, nothing would turn up on a background check.|||Yes, but lib privacy hawks at the ACLU will oppose it. Because they will argue a mental competency test, issued by the government, to secure a gun, is an invasion of privacy.|||Hell, there are stable people that should not have guns. But because its a so called freedom then everyone wants one and can get one. You don't even have to go to a gun store and wait for your background check.|||Pretty much. The problem is how you identify and track them without violating their rights, or in fact violating yours and mine because we've built such a draconian system. For now I'd rather risk an occasional lunatic going off than lose all our liberties.|||mentally unstable describes 90% of people on the government payroll. they dont restrict themselves, just others.|||"Should not," then no.

Mentally ill people CANNOT buy guns. It is illegal, but they have to be adjudicated insane first.

Loughner slipped through the cracks.|||I totally agree if that was law 6 people in AZ would be alive today and 30 something people would be alive in Va.|||Does that include teabaggers?

How else would they be able to turn to their 2nd amendment remedies?|||We can agree that the mentally unstable won't agree.|||You would think that would be the "personally responsible" thing to do.|||I didn't think liberals owned guns anyway.|||yeah planes work so much more effectively

Guns really do not kill people

people really do kill people.|||Yes but we already have laws that cover this. You have to be certified crazy.|||What?!! How dare you step on ANYBODY'S right to own and potentially misuse a lethal weapon!!!|||You are 100% correct.|||ok...|||Yes, liberals should not be allowed

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